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	<title>Comments on: An Objective View of Proposition 75 (really&#8230;)</title>
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	<description>Challenge The Status Quo</description>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://www.toddseal.com/rodin/2005/10/an-objective-view-of-proposition-75-really/comment-page-1/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 06:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A yes vote on 75 will hold unions to a standard no other political organization is held to. If you've ever contributed to a political party or campaign or contributed money to any other cause (PBS comes to mind), they do not have to call you and justify how/why they are spending your money. A contribution to the system means that you agree with their cause enough that you trust their spending. If members do not feel this way about unions, teachers can already opt out of the contributions used for political action. Forcing unions to get permission of all members before taking action is a veiled way of keeping unions out of the political arena.&lt;br /&gt;
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Just thinking about this pragmatically, imagine how large the CTA is and then imagine the infrastructure needed to contact and catalogue responses from all those members. It's ridiculous to expect the union to live up to that obligation. and no other organization has to justify contributed spending in that fashion.&lt;br /&gt;
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Unions already justify their political stance to the members in board meetings, union publications, and barganing. If it's justification you want, then it's already there. If it's a unified ideology, that won't happen with any sizable group. There are always going to be things that unions do that members disagree with. But instead of nitpicking at such issues, a glance at the larger picture is in order. The way the CTA spends every red cent of yours does not have to coincide with your political opinions. That spending does, however, need to have your best interest in mind. Given that union representatives have more information about issues than members, in much the same way that governmental representatives have more information about issues than citizens, a bit of faith in the union is necessary. Lack that faith? Opt out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A yes vote on 75 will hold unions to a standard no other political organization is held to. If you&#8217;ve ever contributed to a political party or campaign or contributed money to any other cause (PBS comes to mind), they do not have to call you and justify how/why they are spending your money. A contribution to the system means that you agree with their cause enough that you trust their spending. If members do not feel this way about unions, teachers can already opt out of the contributions used for political action. Forcing unions to get permission of all members before taking action is a veiled way of keeping unions out of the political arena.</p>
<p>Just thinking about this pragmatically, imagine how large the CTA is and then imagine the infrastructure needed to contact and catalogue responses from all those members. It&#8217;s ridiculous to expect the union to live up to that obligation. and no other organization has to justify contributed spending in that fashion.</p>
<p>Unions already justify their political stance to the members in board meetings, union publications, and barganing. If it&#8217;s justification you want, then it&#8217;s already there. If it&#8217;s a unified ideology, that won&#8217;t happen with any sizable group. There are always going to be things that unions do that members disagree with. But instead of nitpicking at such issues, a glance at the larger picture is in order. The way the CTA spends every red cent of yours does not have to coincide with your political opinions. That spending does, however, need to have your best interest in mind. Given that union representatives have more information about issues than members, in much the same way that governmental representatives have more information about issues than citizens, a bit of faith in the union is necessary. Lack that faith? Opt out.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.toddseal.com/rodin/2005/10/an-objective-view-of-proposition-75-really/comment-page-1/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2005 01:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A yes vote on 75 will force the unions to justify thier political stance to the members.  This way the union is truely representing the interests of the member instead of thier own political agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A yes vote on 75 will force the unions to justify thier political stance to the members.  This way the union is truely representing the interests of the member instead of thier own political agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: HEIDI MOSCHETTI</title>
		<link>http://www.toddseal.com/rodin/2005/10/an-objective-view-of-proposition-75-really/comment-page-1/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>HEIDI MOSCHETTI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 03:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hooray, I was hoping that a Person who is a member of CTA would see the truth and speak about it.  So many times, when people feel that they want those extra couple dollars in their paycheck, do they overlook what is really being bought with the monies....I did hear that there was alot of anger around how CTA was mandating a small amount to just politics....when mandates happen, some people get ruffled...&lt;br /&gt;
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I actually volunteered an extra some to my union for political activities.  Nothing in life is free and of course, politics is one of the most important things that takes place in America.  We are a democratic nation, so we claim, and voting is just what that means.  In order to get votes, you have to get attention.  That is real tough if you havent got money in which to get the attention you want and usually deserve.  &lt;br /&gt;
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I just hope that there are many more people who shed their naive viewpoints... I know they are very intelligent people if they just get over their hard feelings...Unions must absolutely be able to engage in politics... because we all know that the Corporations of America (and elsewhere?) are not looking out for the "worker bees" of our nation.  Without organized labor, no one would be....not even our government.  &lt;br /&gt;
Read it and weep, but see the truth before it is too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hooray, I was hoping that a Person who is a member of CTA would see the truth and speak about it.  So many times, when people feel that they want those extra couple dollars in their paycheck, do they overlook what is really being bought with the monies&#8230;.I did hear that there was alot of anger around how CTA was mandating a small amount to just politics&#8230;.when mandates happen, some people get ruffled&#8230;</p>
<p>I actually volunteered an extra some to my union for political activities.  Nothing in life is free and of course, politics is one of the most important things that takes place in America.  We are a democratic nation, so we claim, and voting is just what that means.  In order to get votes, you have to get attention.  That is real tough if you havent got money in which to get the attention you want and usually deserve.  </p>
<p>I just hope that there are many more people who shed their naive viewpoints&#8230; I know they are very intelligent people if they just get over their hard feelings&#8230;Unions must absolutely be able to engage in politics&#8230; because we all know that the Corporations of America (and elsewhere?) are not looking out for the &#8220;worker bees&#8221; of our nation.  Without organized labor, no one would be&#8230;.not even our government.  <br />
Read it and weep, but see the truth before it is too late.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2005 06:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the best arguments against 75 I have seen online.</description>
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