Comments on: And Rubrics Are For…? http://www.toddseal.com/rodin/2006/12/and-rubrics-are-for/ Challenge The Status Quo Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:57:06 -0800 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Todd http://www.toddseal.com/rodin/2006/12/and-rubrics-are-for/comment-page-1/#comment-53898 Todd Thu, 16 Sep 2010 23:00:38 +0000 http://www.toddseal.com/rodin/2006/12/and-rubrics-are-for/#comment-53898 You say you have no clue what the prof wants. What's on the rubric? It should list the different characteristics of the various levels of performance. I need more detail from you in order to help. I'm not sure I understand your problem entirely. I again want to state that I think rubrics are for teachers, not students. I just handed out rubrics to my kids today with that caveat. Let me know more and maybe we can work something out for you, <strong>Cyd</strong>. You say you have no clue what the prof wants. What’s on the rubric? It should list the different characteristics of the various levels of performance. I need more detail from you in order to help. I’m not sure I understand your problem entirely. I again want to state that I think rubrics are for teachers, not students. I just handed out rubrics to my kids today with that caveat. Let me know more and maybe we can work something out for you, Cyd.

]]> By: Cyd Wright http://www.toddseal.com/rodin/2006/12/and-rubrics-are-for/comment-page-1/#comment-53653 Cyd Wright Thu, 09 Sep 2010 19:17:41 +0000 http://www.toddseal.com/rodin/2006/12/and-rubrics-are-for/#comment-53653 I am a brand new older grad student (I'm almost 50). I did my undergrad work 15 yrs ago, before rubrics existed. Both of my professors use them, but I have no idea how to understand one and use it to get better grades. The only experience I have w/ rubrics is when I am scoring standardized tests online for middle school kids. Those rubrics come w/ extensive training and examples to go by. My classes just have the rubrics for the various assignments and projects, but no training or examples. I'm clueless! I really need some help! I want to do really well in my classwork, but how can I when I have no clue what the prof wants? Can anybody help out there? I am a brand new older grad student (I’m almost 50). I did my undergrad work 15 yrs ago, before rubrics existed. Both of my professors use them, but I have no idea how to understand one and use it to get better grades. The only experience I have w/ rubrics is when I am scoring standardized tests online for middle school kids. Those rubrics come w/ extensive training and examples to go by. My classes just have the rubrics for the various assignments and projects, but no training or examples. I’m clueless! I really need some help! I want to do really well in my classwork, but how can I when I have no clue what the prof wants? Can anybody help out there?

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]]> By: Todd http://www.toddseal.com/rodin/2006/12/and-rubrics-are-for/comment-page-1/#comment-29817 Todd Sat, 04 Apr 2009 02:08:11 +0000 http://www.toddseal.com/rodin/2006/12/and-rubrics-are-for/#comment-29817 But how do we then get the assessment tool into the hands of students in a way that helps them create better products? In my classroom, the way to get students to see what they did wrong on the last piece of writing and either fix it or don't make those mistakes again is what I'm looking for. The rubric that helps me be consistent in my grading isn't going to do this trick. But how do we then get the assessment tool into the hands of students in a way that helps them create better products? In my classroom, the way to get students to see what they did wrong on the last piece of writing and either fix it or don’t make those mistakes again is what I’m looking for. The rubric that helps me be consistent in my grading isn’t going to do this trick.

]]> By: Sean http://www.toddseal.com/rodin/2006/12/and-rubrics-are-for/comment-page-1/#comment-29766 Sean Fri, 03 Apr 2009 01:02:21 +0000 http://www.toddseal.com/rodin/2006/12/and-rubrics-are-for/#comment-29766 In an andragogical context, adult learners need to have clearly defined expectations for testing and evaluation, and a set of standard performance guidelines or expectations so they are aware of their goals. When I attended post-secondary, rubrics were not used. Often we were given vague assignments with very few evaluation guidelines, so we simply did the best job we could. What was the difference between an "A" and a "B+" (beside a reduction in our GPA's)? It seemed like the answer to this was arbitrary depending on the prof's mood. Very unfair looking back on it now. Harry Barfoot stated "we spend less time comparing students to each other and now to a standard". I completely agree. And in the pedadgogical context, I think Todd has nailed it by stating rubrics are for teachers and not for students. However I am not saying they aren't useful or don't have their place in a pedagogical setting. For example, procedural knowledge in areas such as industrial arts, where students are manufacturing items such as birdhouses or whatever should find rubrics very useful. In an andragogical context, adult learners need to have clearly defined expectations for testing and evaluation, and a set of standard performance guidelines or expectations so they are aware of their goals.

When I attended post-secondary, rubrics were not used. Often we were given vague assignments with very few evaluation guidelines, so we simply did the best job we could. What was the difference between an “A” and a “B+” (beside a reduction in our GPA’s)? It seemed like the answer to this was arbitrary depending on the prof’s mood. Very unfair looking back on it now.

Harry Barfoot stated “we spend less time comparing students to each other and now to a standard”. I completely agree. And in the pedadgogical context, I think Todd has nailed it by stating rubrics are for teachers and not for students.

However I am not saying they aren’t useful or don’t have their place in a pedagogical setting. For example, procedural knowledge in areas such as industrial arts, where students are manufacturing items such as birdhouses or whatever should find rubrics very useful.

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