Comments on: Wasting Time http://www.toddseal.com/rodin/2007/03/wasting-time/ Challenge The Status Quo Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:56:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Robert http://www.toddseal.com/rodin/2007/03/wasting-time/comment-page-1/#comment-25400 Robert Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:40:55 +0000 http://www.toddseal.com/rodin/2007/03/wasting-time/#comment-25400 Well as it seems, the plan isn't as worked out as it is typed out i personally felt it had good points but the flaws are just as numeras i as a student do thank you thought i am only a senior in high school but it has caught my attention. Btw good luck with that evidence box it seems to be time consuming with no efficency unless explained to the student before hand. Well as it seems, the plan isn’t as worked out as it is typed out i personally felt it had good points but the flaws are just as numeras i as a student do thank you thought i am only a senior in high school but it has caught my attention. Btw good luck with that evidence box it seems to be time consuming with no efficency unless explained to the student before hand.

]]> By: Dan Meyer http://www.toddseal.com/rodin/2007/03/wasting-time/comment-page-1/#comment-11056 Dan Meyer Thu, 08 Mar 2007 01:33:01 +0000 http://www.toddseal.com/rodin/2007/03/wasting-time/#comment-11056 Er, that sucks, in my opinion. Er, that sucks, in my opinion.

]]> By: Todd http://www.toddseal.com/rodin/2007/03/wasting-time/comment-page-1/#comment-10880 Todd Wed, 07 Mar 2007 03:19:07 +0000 http://www.toddseal.com/rodin/2007/03/wasting-time/#comment-10880 They visited my classroom today. They were only there for 3 minutes. They never even looked in the general direction of my evidence box. That makes it exactly the waste of time I thought it would be. They visited my classroom today. They were only there for 3 minutes. They never even looked in the general direction of my evidence box. That makes it exactly the waste of time I thought it would be.

]]> By: Todd http://www.toddseal.com/rodin/2007/03/wasting-time/comment-page-1/#comment-10821 Todd Mon, 05 Mar 2007 19:41:13 +0000 http://www.toddseal.com/rodin/2007/03/wasting-time/#comment-10821 Thanks for humoring me, Dan. This is a pretty trivial post. Yes. However, here's the trouble: <ol> <li>Assessment #1 in September</li> <li>Hand back assessment</li> <li>Work with reflection on assessment or review skills</li> <li>Assessment #2 in November/December<ul> <li>At this point, students need assessment #1 as a way to figure out what they can do to improve their performance</li> <li>Assessment #1 still not collected; assessment #2 given</li> </ul> </li> <li>Hand back assessment</li> <li>Now, the reflection or review can take into account performance on 2 different markers</li> <li>Assessment #3 in February/March</li> <li>etc.</li> </ul> It's a cycle that doesn't stop all year long. There's no good time to take an assessment out of that loop. More importantly, there's no good time to take an assessment out of that loop for a committee of 3 that have 108 classrooms to visit in 2 days (do the math, but that doesn't leave a lot of time for intense reading of the evidence I went through all that trouble to collect). I expect my students to use their previous work to improve future performance. I can't have that expectation if I ever take away those materials. Thanks for humoring me, Dan. This is a pretty trivial post.

Yes. However, here’s the trouble:

  1. Assessment #1 in September
  2. Hand back assessment
  3. Work with reflection on assessment or review skills
  4. Assessment #2 in November/December
    • At this point, students need assessment #1 as a way to figure out what they can do to improve their performance
    • Assessment #1 still not collected; assessment #2 given
  5. Hand back assessment
  6. Now, the reflection or review can take into account performance on 2 different markers
  7. Assessment #3 in February/March
  8. etc.

    9. It’s a cycle that doesn’t stop all year long. There’s no good time to take an assessment out of that loop. More importantly, there’s no good time to take an assessment out of that loop for a committee of 3 that have 108 classrooms to visit in 2 days (do the math, but that doesn’t leave a lot of time for intense reading of the evidence I went through all that trouble to collect). I expect my students to use their previous work to improve future performance. I can’t have that expectation if I ever take away those materials.

]]> By: Dan Meyer http://www.toddseal.com/rodin/2007/03/wasting-time/comment-page-1/#comment-10819 Dan Meyer Mon, 05 Mar 2007 17:10:09 +0000 http://www.toddseal.com/rodin/2007/03/wasting-time/#comment-10819 Can you pass the tests back and then re-collect them? Can you pass the tests back and then re-collect them?

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